Turkish journalist, political scientist and publicist Musa Ozugurlu. In 2010, he started working as TRT Turk’s representative in Syria. He is one of the few foreign journalists in Syria to follow the process, which began in 2011, on-site until 2016. Its area is mainly in Syria and the Middle East. He currently presents the weekly program “Media critical” where he interprets the media’s approach to the internal and external agenda every weekday on plus TV, and “in the meantime” where the internal and external agenda is discussed.
BalkanPost: How would you describe the trilateral meeting between Rouhani, Putin and Erdogan in Ankara?
There’s no concrete result. The only concrete result is about constitution but we can’t say it is a major success. Because constitution is a matter of inside Syria and Syrians. And in anyway it would be solved. But There are two big problems: Idlib and the Kurds’ issue. Has Turkey agreed to retreat from Idlib and the other areas? For now, no! But may be later. Has Turkey agreed not to support the terrorist organizations? No. So that means there’s no progress about Idlib and this problem will continue between Turkey and Syria. On the other hand, how the trilateral group will solve The Kurdish (YPG) problem? USA is in the region and it will not retreat – at least for now. In that case Turkey cannot make any operation against the Kurds. Syria and Russia also want to solve Kurdish problem but they want to solve it without fight and they want to keep Syria’s territorial integrity. If Turkey intervene the Americans and the Kurds will resist. So we can’t say there’s a concrete result in main issues.
BalkanPost: What do you think about Israeli provocations in Lebanon and Syria?
Israel’s aggression to Syria and Lebanon is under two title.
– In terms of domestic politics:
Netanyahu wants to keep his pressure on the voters that there is a big threat from Iran and Hizballah.
– In terms of foreign politics:
Israel and its western supporters know very well that the Resistance in the Middle East is growing. Everything they do does nothing but strengthen the resistance. So they are in panic.
So Israel wants war on the one hand but afraid on the other hand. And as a result, Netanyahu just want to make provocations. He knows very well if there’s a war Israel will lose against Hizballah and the resistance.
Damascus’ only requirement from the Kurds is to leave the US. After that Damascus can sit on the table. But the Kurds doesn’t trust Damascus because of the past. Syria’s UN representative Bashar Al Jafari mention the Kurds as “terrorists” for the first time. That means there is possibility of conflict/war between Kurds and the Syrian army. On the other hand, if Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia can remove the US from Syrian soil, I think the Kurds will negotiate with Damascus. But it’s a little chance for now, and what will happen between the Kurds and Damascus depends on USA’s stance – from one point.
BalkanPost: How real are Erdogan’s plans to place Syrian refugees in the “safe zone”?
No reality. Because Syrians want to go back to their land. I mean they have properties in their cities they left. So why they accept to live in another place that they never seen before? It’s nonsense! On the other hand, if they accept to go to the safe zone will case many big social problems. Because many of the Syrians in Turkey now under the control of government and they are against the Kurds and the Syrian government. Erdogan wants to place his human power there. This will be an Arab belt between Turkish and Syrian Kurds. So the Kurds will act against it and the Syrian government does not want this demographic change too. Syrian government wants its people to go back to their lands and homes and to join normal life. To add: Erdogan now wants to get rid of from the Syrians. But at the same time he wants to use the Syrians as a tool against the Kurds and the Syrian government.
NOTE: This article first appeared at balkanspost.com.